PPE
which side
are you on
Katharine: Tell me, now the recorder’s on, so tell me about the song from the video game…
Jack: …Is what was we would call a modded song it’s from a modded game called ‘Kaiser Reich’, which is based on a computer game called ‘Hearts of Iron 4’ and the song is based on a song from the thirties, a 1930s miners’ song that was sung in the United States called: ‘Which Side Are You On’. I think that’s the basic name of it, and the song is about … a Kentucky coal miners’ strike. And the song really resonates with me in Brexit, because it was a very clear in my mind a very clear ... us and them … as much as that sounds dark, but it was a kind of ... a genuine fight for political, genuine political struggle, if that makes sense and therefore resonated with me…
The actual picture is a much more, I would say contrast with that because it was a picture of, I think three healthcare staff in China hugging in the Covid epidemic and in the pandemic in China, and I thought … it’s quite a nice image even though, it’s even though they’re covered in coveralls and healthcare PPE, it’s still quite nice to see the picture as a kind of contrast, I think.
Quote from interview with Jack, January 2020. Jack is a white British man in his 20s and is born and bred in the South West of England. Jack voted remain in the referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU.
i didn’t want to wear a face mask
I was explaining how I didn’t want to wear a face mask and I was really…I was like ‘I’ll do it, but I don’t think it makes that much difference mainly because you’ve been telling us…the government told us for months and months that you didn’t need to wear a face mask and then all of a sudden they flipped!’. And I was talking to someone and they were like…I was like ‘I don’t think it’s the government’s place to tell us to wear a face mask’ and I was talking to someone else and they were like ‘well, they tell us to wear a seatbelt and that protects you’. And I thought ‘oh OK, well that’s a fair argument’ and sort of…its slightly different but it’s a fair argument and so…but you have to be careful who you talk to.
Interview extract from Sam, a man in his 40s, November 2020. Sam self-identifies white British, working-class. He lives in a market town in the East Midlands. Sam voted to leave the EU.